and key documents. what would you do. >> i would take path two. the courts are too slow for this. there's just not enough time. we saw it with jerry nadler. he got bogged down in courts and there's motion to expedite. even if courts move as fast as they can, this is going to take months and months. time that the democrats do not have with the election right around the corner. what i would do is just say, fine. those of you who are going to have legal temper tantrums like rudy giuliani had and said i don't recognize you, fine. you go clam up in the corner. i'm going to build my case on the phone call. i'm going to build my case on the career diplomats yovanovitch and hill and the other people we've seen testifying this week. and we also, by the way, will be considering an article of impeachment for obstruction. >> it is notable, molly ball, that the white house attempted a little more than a week ago. things move so fast to block all these witnesses from testifying. a lot of them defying it and