here at the white house, intrigue between the national security council, which didn't think it was a good idea, and the office of management and budget, run, by the way, by the acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney. they thought it was perfect perfectly okay. the white house is saying routine practices and procedures were followed and there was legal consensus every step of the way, the office of management and budget says. of course there is a law that controls all this and says the president has to spend money that congress appropriates for certain measures. >> ultimately that's what forced their hand. simple as that. joe jones at the white house, thanks very much. susan malvo on capitol hill with more on where the democrats' investigation stands. suzanne? >> as you know, the house and senate on recess for thanksgiving break, but we heard from house intel chief, the chair, adam schiff, on "state of the union" talking about he is willing to open up more hearings