band diing of the facts. the president mentioned there were lists of isis financiers he implied recovered during the raid that killed al baghdadi and spoke about that there but i think with macron, i really felt here you had the curtains pulled back from, you know, the sort of covers on the meetings that we don't normally get to see. this was a french president as combative as we've seen him publicly side by side with any other leader. >> yeah, combative, showing some backbone there and notable too, always mentioned after 9/11, nato invoked article 5, mutual defense and it is that mutual defense commitment of the treaty which the president has questioned since then perhaps forgetting what happened in 2001. we have barbara starr here as well. david brought it up. the president bringing up the prospect of a nuclear agreement with russia. he said he has spoken to putin