sets aside the current immigration laws and overrides them with this deporting based on this health provision. it's not anything new. the numbers are concerning, but it's not something that we haven't seen over the course of a handful of administrations in the united states. >> the surge isn't going away whether it be political issues, climate issues, do you have any faith that this is going to get any part of it will get resolved in this administration? or even addressed in terms of legislation, for example? >> i'm not terribly encouraged in seeing the immigration reform. i think there are some things that can be done. daca, some of the work adjustment initiatives, i think have some possibilities. but one of the things i'm most encouraged by today's meetings is that they are establishing a