hit the same heights we hit back in january of 2021. we will see cases rise, hospitalizations rise, we'll see deaths unfortunately rise as well. but the highest number are will not be nearly as bad as last winter. >> we have power in this as a people because we know that boosters help protect us individually, also help protect the population. so how much would booster shots have to increase from where they stand now in terms of a percentage of the population to make a difference in either of those scenarios you described? >> yeah. well, boosters are already making a difference. every additional booster protects somebody. so there's not like some critical threshold where we have to get there and make a difference. every person who makes that decision helps us. right now i think we're a little under 20% of americans have been boosted, which is about 30% who are eligible for boosters, and we've made projections that suggest that if we can get up to 80% of eligible people boosted