victims, that the chances of us finding their loved ones alive were just almost gone toward the end of that effort. >> the building was creaking, the building was dangerous and unstable. and that was an urban area, so they needed to take the building down. >> i knew the two people that were -- that the bodies that they still hadn't gotten out at that time and, you know, that bothered me. i knew they had to do it. i knew that they needed to do that. >> i had the honor of standing by philip and ken thompson. they are the sons of virginia thompson, who was left in the building. and that was an experience i'll never forget as long as i live. >> all of us got rather teary-eyed because we had been so emotionally involved with this. but then once the smoke cleared