believe? does he say that schools are gun-free zones or not? >> well, i can't speak for mr. lapierre. let me say this about asa hutchinson. he's a good man. the report made eight recommendations and i know we will focus on the arming personnel in school, but four of them were pretty decent about an online tool to enhance security working with law enforcement. but i got to tell you, in my opinion, just like connecticut's legislature didn't go down the right path, arming people in schools, i mean, i had teachers that i wouldn't trust with a 50 magazine stapler for crying out loud, let alone a firearm. i think you're going to increase accidental shootings and a whole bunch of things that you don't have going on in schools today, and i think that that's not so hot. >> piers, this is where the fearmongering is so ridiculous. my point is this. we trust these teachers with our children. we trust these teachers around our children to educate them, to care for them, and by the way,