furthest? >> i think that sort of behavior isn't endemic to wall street, it's endemic to large groups of men who are drinking or doing any sort of substances in a frat house, where people -- it's the herd mentality, where people individually never do these things, you put 50, 100 in one spot, and all of a sudden, the rules of behavior start to change. >> did you have a champ pan zee in the office handing out mail? >> people had pets in the office, there was an iguana, a rattlesnake, boa constrictor. >> you're saying this like it's all perfectly normal. if i came into my cnn office one day with a boa constrictor, i would be marched out of there. >> i heard stories in silicon valley, people bring their pets to work. we took it in a different direction. >> what was the most appalling