have gun laws and the states next to them have tough ones. and old people can carry a van and pring them over. they have to apply everywhere so it is illegal to do this kind of thing. >> it is about state rights and so the body in charge on a federal level is atf. we sat down to talk to them and they don't deny that. i want you to listen to our atf. >> how easy is it for a criminal to get a gun. >> any means oftransportation. have you ever ridden a bus? >> have you never been searched getting on a bus?