white supremacists as the greatest domestic terrorist of our time to be comparing people to them that have spent their lives challenging them and actually who the klan hates. the klan really does not like me. >> look, yesterday on cnn state of the union, vivek ramaswamy was pressed about this, and pressed about the violence of the and how that could possibly compare to anything that you or congresswoman ayanna pressley have said. he said he wanted to provoke a, quote, honest discussion in this country. so, just help us here. what would an honest discussion on race in this country in this moment actually look like? >> i think we would start with racial disparities and inequities. we would identify the evidence that points to, for instance, black people are more likely to be impoverished or incarcerated or killed by police or dying of heart disease and cancer. we would also recognize that there is nothing inferior about black people as a group. so, there must be policies and practices leading to those disparities and as americans we