and i who works here are expecting a baby girl at the end of august. >> jenna wolf saying she is pregnant with her girlfriend, who also works at nbc. imagine that happening 15, 20 years. that would have been a bombshell and now a blip. >> absolutely. >> does this have any impact on public opinion? now is not just faceless people, but people who come into your living rooms who say, hey, i'm gay. >> absolutely. even if you look at the way journalism has gone over the last 10 or 20 years, it has gotten more personal in a way. one thing that fox does very well, fox news they personalized their commentators in that whether you like o'reilly or not, you know who they are. they have become real people for you. not just citing the facts. >> don't you say that is true on the other networks? >> i think fox took the lead on it. don't go bias in that sense, but the readers or the viewers like the humanity and you see it in blogging, as well. when the commentators are also a