the left when he talks about australia when he talks about things that liberals know to be a positive instead of a negative that he's using code language and that causes them not to trust him. i wonder if there's a starting point, something small you would recommend? >> this debate has gone on for decades. it's a very emotional reason doesn't always enter into this. it can be a very emotional situation. the other problem with mediation in cases like guns or even i watch in the middle east, if one side comes to the table ready to negotiate, but isn't convinced that the other side can deliver, you know, i hear this is lot from the israelis when they see even if we sit down and try to work out with our adversary across the mediation table, we