being anti-facts was his crusade but covid evidently claimed his life. marcus lamb died after being hospitalized for covid-19 recently. lamb led a popular christian broadcast network and used his empire, among other things, used it to spread inaccurate information about covid-19 vaccine. he advocated other treatments instead. one featured prominent anti-vaxxers like robert kennedy jr. though his death made headlines this week, some christian leaders don't want to talk about it, as "the washington post" pointed out in this story. joining me is someone who will talk about it, bob smietana, a former president of the news association. tell us about marcus lamb, for those who doesn't watch his program on daystar, what was he telling viewers on covid-19? >> true. marcus lamb was the head of one