groups or jihad di groups, colluding isis together. and to keep them from fighting each other to turn their attention to fighting against isis. so that's kind of the first step in this but you have to get the political objectives between the united states, russia, iran, saudi arabia, turkey all to be congruent so you can then focus the military attention on isis and so that when you do drive them out or underground you have a replacement governing body to go into that territory and reestablish law and order. otherwise it's the familiar sort of whack a hole. people disappear into families, you don't know who they are, you get shot at, there's improvised explosive devices and we've all been there and we don't want to repeat that. >> general wesley clark, we certainly appreciate your time and insight. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, brianna. coming up, the isis terrorist who's at the top of he may have given orders that