arabic that i'm in god's hands, god will take care of me and essentially committed his own suicide, as the ntsb said the cause of the crash due to his direct pilot inputs. and as a result of that he committed mass murder as well as his own suicide. >> i remember that the ntsb came to that conclusion. as is my memory accurate in saying that egyptair through the end refused to acknowledge that that's what the cause was? >> absolutely. and, you know, having done this for 40 years and been involved in every major crash, whenever we have foreign carriers and foreign governments -- because many of the governments own the airlines -- we run into resistance for the professionalism of the ntsb and they never wanted to acknowledge that their pilot had done this. they wanted to blame it on some kind of mechanical error. so you're 100% right, michael. your memory is spot on. that's what happened. now, in 40 years, i want you to understand and having been involved in the lockerbie