camp and to refuse shelter for all sorts of reasons, right now, in grants pass we have empty shelter beds, and yet this week this situation is just deteriorating constantly. >> just this week, a body was found in a tent next to a little league field. so we have empty shelter beds and yet people are dying on the streets because cities can't rely on these basic laws that help them intervene to get people help they need to intervene to get people shelter, housing, and services that they desperately need this is a really hard case at least for me and obviously, you're the one who will be making the argument on monday. >> so you've studied it, but it's a very hard case for me to imagine where the members of the court will end up because there are such competing privacy safety individual liberty interests here. do you think this is going to result in a 6-3 split?