than just a photo-op. the white house is trying to downplay expectations but at the same time, they're laying the groundwork for greater involvement and more discussions. we will see if the secretary of state is able to achieve anything after the president leaves. let me ask you this. when we were in break, you expressed skepticism about this kind of process. not the sort of thing you want to hear from america's youth. you're not hopeful at all today. >> i don't know that i'm not hopeful but it seems it's all for show right now. not committing to anything. >> you're building goodwill. news conferences and public proclamations and you go places, see things with the cameras but building on that goodwill is what you draw on with peace negotiations down the road. >> here we go. president obama and president mahmoud abbas.