support her in 2016? >> i think nobody has asked me for my support right now, but i'll say this, which is donna is right about this. if she ran, if she ran, there will be a transformation al effect as there was a transformational with then senator obama when he ran in terms of a female. we saw it in 2008 as well. that was a very, very close race if you look at the popular vote during the primaries. what the polls tell us right now is that people really aren't ready to deal with 2016 as they should not be, and i looked at a cnn poll from march of 2009 looking at the republican primary race and it was sarah palin and mike huckabee. >> i mean, that's what -- you're being so curiously quiet over here. you're an admirer of hillary clinton if not in her policies. i know you worked with her. >> we worked together on health policy and defense policy. the biggest thing i say for our