civil rights. this is an issue where the people led and the parties responded. and you know, and you have president bill clinton coming out saying i apologize for my leadership on holding this issue back. so, from a political, you know, from a partisan perspective right now, i think this issue cuts for democrats going forward. >> i think that's right, but i think it also means that it becomes more permanent and less political, which means that progress keeps marching forward. after all, you have a majority of evangelicals, white evangelicals between the ages of 18 and 34 who support marriage. the republican party can never go backwards on this issue. they can never start demonizing gay people again. they can never start using this issue as a rallying cry, because if it helps a small percentage of their base, it alienates too many more people who have gays and lesbians in their families. and i think matt is right, those stories are what have driven this issue so to pick up on what hillary