>> one of the failings of the report was not to have long conversations with the fbi, as a matter of fact they had no personal relationship with the fbi in the conducting of the report. pretty hard to come to a conclusion, there was no impact. when you do an investigation, it's an important to have some clue line up the next clue. and this program clearly has done that and it has clearly had an impact, we argue a significant impact on eight of the cases in the affirmative meaning that it led to a disrupti disruption. and it stopped hundreds of thousands of fbi man hours chasing down radicals. that's hugely important. we don't have resources to waste when we know we have these targets. here's the problem with the president's proposal. he said he's for the program, it works. he has very serious privacy ter concerns by mandating that the private sector keep it and so do