he has to leading his country. it's clear that there is no way that syria can find peace and stability with assad in power. >> so u.s. policy is we want him gone? >> we're working with other countries, we're working with the moderate opposition in syria to build the pressure on assad as we speak. >> i want to move you to ukraine. all western allies are on board with new sanctions. is that correct? >> that's correct. >> as a result of those phone calls. >> that's correct. >> what is the thing that's going to hurt president putin the most? >> look, step back and look at what's already happened as a result of the actions russia has taken and the steps we've taken in response led by president obama. the economic isolation of russia is growing every single day. its financial markets are down 22% since the beginning of the year. >> you don't want to punish the people of russia. you want putin to move away from the ukraine border and he's still there. >> he has a very hard choice to make, candy. he had a compact with his people and it's this, i'll deliver