thursday. the first time they sat down with one another to discuss this matter. it didn't go very far. senator schumer said to senator mccconnell, i'll let you think this over. i can understand speaker pelosi would like to have some idea of how this case is going to be presented. it's not unreasonable. >> it's not unreasonable but do you think she and you and democrats have leverage here. all right. you don't send them to me, all right, i'll move on and do more judges. >> dana, our leverage is four republican senators will stand up as 20 years ago we saw in the impeachment of bill clinton and say, this is much bigger than our current political squabbles. this is the third time in history a president's been impeached. the constitution is very clear that we have an awesome responsibility and let's live up to it on a bipartisan basis befo. if four republican senators step up, it can make a big