and i think the white house is working on that right now because remember what we want to deliver is child care, paid leave and climate change. >> i want to get to that. so 1.5 is too small but you won't say if 2 trillion is too small. >> i don't have a definite number yet. i don't have a counteroffer. it would be like buying a house and going in to make an offer and somebody says what's the lowest number you would take? why would i do that? >> let's talk about the substance because that does matter more than anything right now. because there's so much you're talking about, i want to put up for the viewers on the screen some of the policies. universal pre-k. child care. tuition free community college. paid medical and family leave, child tax credit making it permanent, dental and vision, hearing coverage for medicare, home care for seniors and sweeping climate provisions. so looking at all of that, congresswoman, what is your strategy to negotiate? are you thinking about keeping all of those programs in and