haberman's new book that, quote, white house resident staff found papers clogged the toilet le leading staff to believe trump had flushed materials he'd ripped to pieces. he also took 15 boxes to mar-a-lago. you worked in the west wing. what do you know about trump ripping up documents? i'm sure you didn't go into the bathroom with him, but flushing stuff down? >> so i did witness him ripping papers. i think it was kind of just -- he does that. i know the staff secretary had to piece back together papers to archive them. the bigger issue here among the many grievances i have with trump, i don't know that not archiving is a huge issue. but the classified information mishandling is huge. i criticized hillary clinton for the same thing. the idea that he himself may have done exactly what we hit her for for five years is