back out -- in the mainstream. so they're doing a great job in iowa right now on the ground getting people out. dragging and knocking and dragging people tonight and tomorrow night. so i think you'll continue to see that operation moving forward. >> one thing in the des moines register poll, he's doing good with college educated women. >> the republican base wants what the republican base wants and it appears they wan donald trump. he's well liked even by votes in the party who are saying maybe i'll choose ron desantis or look somewhere else. and the republicans like donald trump when he's the old, president donald trump talking about the policies that the voters like. and they even kind of sometimes like him when he's new donald trump and vengeful, et cetera. his campaign will try, think smartly to keep him away from doing too much of that. but he is still donald trump and he is who he said he is. >> and this is a tough remax for president biden. >> no question.