president and the former president. would you encourage joe biden to debate donald trump? >> look, i think we're used to having debates. there's no doubt. i will say that whenever i look at donald trump's debating style, he lives and lives and lives. and it's so hard to respond to that in the middle of a debate, you only have 30 seconds or 60 seconds to respond. do you talk about what you want to do for the future do you respond? onto the lives that have come out of donald trump's mouth every minute and i'm concerned about that just to be honest with you. but i also think that joe biden is a terrific debater. he understands the issues donald trump doesn't read, doesn't understand any of these issues. and so he'll just prepare a kate the entire time. i'm while joe biden is actually showing people a great future for the united states, governor pritzker of illinois. thank you so much for being here. i appreciate it. >> thanks. dana and up next, mike johnson's future as house