>> how many people will this affect, do you think? >> well, near term, it's affecting the 80 boats with six, seven guys on each boat. it's affecting eight or ten processors that have hundreds of processors standing by waiting to take our catch. >> then the residual effect of all the people -- >> the residual effect. the thing is, it's like the tip of the iceberg as well because there's other essential personnel in other offices around the united states in the fisheries that for let's say, for example, the observer coverage. it's a federal program. a lot of fisheries around the united states have observerers. right now, those operating with observers are board but as they finish a day sailing, it gets met and they have to be replaced. they can't issue numbers to put any observers into the system. so guys will start getting to the dock and being told sorry, we can't give you a new observer so you can't fish. >> the bottom line is this industry depends on a working,