friends, most recently, about a month ago, to corporations, we thought our families should get the same treatment under the law as those politically protected entities. that's what the fight was about. that's why i can look these kids in the eye and say, do you want to live in a country where folks who are politically powerful get better treated than those who are not? and i think they'll say no and i think as they get older, they'll realize that this was fought for the right reasons and it was worth to come and see this rather than maybe the smithsoni smithsonian. >> to play devil's advocate, what the white house says when i ask them about the different treatment, the delay in the corporate mandate and not delaying the individual mandate requiring individuals to get insurance, they say -- and this is not what they officially say, but the truth is that obama care depends on more people joining the system, so that more people can have health insurance and that's how it works, and it's not as dependent upon corporations, since 85% of the country already is insured. >> sure enough, and that's what i expect them to say. but the follow-up question to