begin to rebuild what has been damaged and restore what's been lost. but i'm not sure that we're at that point yet. it's that drip, drip, drip aspect to it is part of the difficulty the administration is having of getting ahead of it. >> how devastating are these charges when it comes to spying on our allies? i've heard that for the french, it's kind of feigned, they're not really outraged, but the germans are very offended and obviously what we've heard out of south america, the state dinner being canceled, that's serious, too. >> i think you have to separate these things out. obviously from the string of snowden revelations, the revelations compromise certain intelligence activities has been damaged. we are talking about europe. they are our closest friends. we've struggled at times, we have difference of opinion on lots of things, but europe and the united states look at the world in largely the same way so