i think this is an enormously symbolic effort. it's not good to have guys out there like chapo guzman but in terms of the apparatus of drug smuggling, these guys have been in business for 25, 30 years. the roots that they are using are in place and they have probably thought through, as you would in any other multibillion business, a succession plan and what happens if the top guy gets pinched. >> he's a mexican national. do you think mexico will consent to the u.s.' extradition requests and, if not, can the u.s. trust mexico to actually put him away forever? >> i think this is going to be a big, tense political issue between the two countries in the coming weeks. on the one hand, the mexicans have a point, which is essentially that the overwhelming majority of the guy's victims are in mexico.