against this interpol list? it's interpol, for the whole world? >> the first thing we need to do is that malaysia airlines is not the only ones that don't check. actually, a very large number of countries and airlines don't do the simple check. >> why? >> one reason that you get is money. a lot of it is at the end of the day involved with spending more money on this check, having more as a result of having more checkers, setting an infrastructure but at the end of the day, when we see the costs of the searches now, not to mention the cost of human life, and if it was a terrorist attack, then being on the losing side in the world of terrorism, all of this is not really calculated into the formula by those people that take the decision not to do this check. >> it's not as if malaysia