fundamentalist islamist. but those are familiar words which means he was converted at some point. who converted him? some people are converted online. we know that. but others are converted by some very persuasive imam somewhere. it's possible someone in the united states helped bring him across the line and helped convert him into being a terrorist. >> still so much we don't know. let's talk about your novel "sting of the drone." it's interesting because as you read it there's an argument why drone strikes are good. then you read it a little longer and it talks about why they are not such a good idea and then you write at the end, the postscript, the nonfiction part of the book about how you helped convince people to arm drones that are initially used for surveillance and you write at the end, since 9/11, the united states has killed 2,000 people using armed drones and the