supporting hillary clinton's run. and even though she hasn't announced. it sort of made thee think about there's joe viden who served honorably as vice president. and he won't even run if hillary runs. >> if hillary clinton didn't exist or wasn't a candidate, let's understand that this is michelle obama's politics. she's a feminist of a particular generation. i thought she was maybe getting ready for sascha and malia the way any good mother would. she's a bit player. >> she's not a bit player in this big story. >> by the way, you're right. i mean, you know, of course you would expect michele obama to say we're ready for a woman president. she might have said that in 2007 if her husband hadn't run, right? >> gloria borger, errol louis, thank you for being with us. always appreciate it. coming up for us, the man who stared down lawmakers on capitol hill. >> i did not, if you have any evidence of that i'd be happy to see it. >> i asked a question. >> and i answered it.
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