>> it depends. i can't say i have been in all those detailed negotiations but i think we need to send whatever is necessary. by the way, that includes to the peshmerga forces. a quarter of a million forces in the kurdish peshmerga are defending a 1,000 kilometer border with isis and we are also asking them not just to defend that border but also now to make gains into isis controlled territory. so both the iraqis and the peshmerga need to be directly armed by us and we have to ensure with the iraqi military that we have strong leadership imbedded with them which probably includes american forces american advisors because with strong leadership the iraqis will fight. when their leadership melts away like we saw in mosul, your average soldier may have been eager to fight but if his captain runs away he will run away too. >> the west has been stymied at isis' ability to bring in recruits. listen to something that secretary of state john kerry said earlier today about that. >> it's not just kids from britain. there are several thousand people from russia.