their money's worth. >> not for me to say. >> and you believe america's policy towards ukraine has been strengthened during your tenure as the special representative? >> absolutely. when i look back at the record i think we did an awful lot to support ukraine. >> is it fair to say that is in part due to president trump. >> president trump approved each of the decisions made along the way. providing lethal defensive equipment and the nonrecognition statement on crimea i think being two of the most important ones. >> and for many years there had been initiative in the interagency for lethal support for ukraine. >> that is correct. >> and it wasn't until president trump and his administration came in that that went through? >> that is correct. >> the delegation to president trump zelensky's inauguration in may, i believe you testified it was one of the largest