quo ever occurred. the u.s. aid flowed and the president has spoken with president zelensky. democrats keep chasing ghosts. >> actually we're chasing the press secretary who doesn't talk to the press. except to -- except to fox news. >> be that as it may. amanda, what do you think of that claim? obviously the response from democrats led by adam schiff is the reason that the u.s. aid to ukraine flowed was they got caught? >> who cares what she said. what i saw today was he's trying to draw a distinction between the quid pro quo between the white house visits and the aid. he owns up to the fact, yeah, we held up the white house visits for the investigations. he doesn't deny that. but every -- every time the discussion got to the money, didn't want to hear anything about this. so i think there is a strategy coming together at play where they think they could scapegoat