july 25th transcript does president trump ever suggest that he intends to withhold military aid for any reason? >> he doesn't. and that's the reason we keep on hearing the word circumstantial and inferential and that's what's so concerning. those would be appropriate terms. it's not that you can't have a circumstantial case, those are appropriate terms if these are unknowable facts. the problem is you have so many witnesses not subpoenaed, witnesses we've not heard from. >> right. so if it's not in the transcript it's got to come from witness tem and i assume you've reviewed all the witness testimony so you know no witness testified they either heard president trump or were told by president trump to withhold military aid for any reason. correct? >> krects. correct. >> so let me turn to the issue of obstruction of justice quickly. i think you assumed and did i