political party and attended a kgb camp when he was younger according to his website. >> reporter: jake. >> pamela brown, thanks so much. let's chew over this. amanda, let me start with you. trump's legal team planning this defense in a theoretical senate trial. for those not familiar, if the house does vote to impeach it is not the end of it. it then goes to senate and they serve as jurors whether or not to remove the president from office. the trump team and republicans want to bring in joe biden, hunter biden, talk about burisma, talk about that. is the strategy just to muddy the water so the focus is not on what the president did? >> yes, that's what the white house is like because they're interested in causing chaos. i don't think it is in the senate's interest at all but given the fact rudy giuliani is meddling as we speak, think all senate republicans should be put on the spot, do you condone rudy giuliani continuing to do this.