the committee should have access. but heat hear what one of the judges said about what's really at stake here. >> this all boils down to who decides, who decides when it's in the best interest of the united states to disclose presidential records. is it the current occupant of the white house or the former? >> look, there are a lot of novel questions that are raised in this case. trump lost at the lower court. likely whatever happens here at the appellate court, this case is very likely going to be heading to the supreme court, whether they take it up, that remains to be scene. >> beyond the actual substance of whether or not congress will get to see these documents which matters the most. all these precedent-setting decisions that courts are going to make. thank you. good to see you, paula. president biden today is hoping to remind americans what he's accomplished. is it enough? we'll talk to the man in charge of keeping democrats in control of the house, next.