break. i -- we covered allen gross when he was taken hostage and jailed by the cubans. there will be a day that we're covering the good news of him being released, but i know it's easy for me to say. how do you stay optimistic? how do you ckeep the faith? >> mostly when we were able to communicate with trevor, he just made it very clear that we should not worry, even though we're parents and we're going to worry. he has a really good attitude. he's strong and i just try to look to that and keep myself together. i do have bad days. and everybody does. it's not just affected me. it's his sister. our extended family. everyone. but i just have to be faithful and after like joey said, after our meeting with jake sullivan, we feel more hopeful. >> yeah, do you feel more hopeful today? >> oh, absolutely. and i try and stay focused on keeping his name out there and speaking out on his behalf. you know, to try to get him home. do everything we can. make our contacts in russia and