to be the person that keeps the crazy out of the president's way not just with donald trump but any president. you know this. there's always a lot of stuff coming in. some of it nutty. some of it extraneous. john kelly the retired general as chief of staff one of his main jobs was getting breitbart articles not printed out and put on the president's desk. it seems like meadows it was the exact opposite. >> because he knew it would please the president. all they want to do the please the president and say oh, here is another cockamamie legal theory we'll throw out at you and you'll love it which is what occurred we know now. >> also the vice president's team was thinking very different things and behaving in a very different manner. i think credit still very much due to vice president pence that even in the face of prominent members of congress sort of forwarding and lending credence to this theory if that is what happened here he still held firm. >> they were yelling hang mike pence. i'm sure there could have been violence against other members of congress, other democrats. but the one they were targeting