>> well, it came from your phone. we've now confirmed the phone number on two different databases and from five people who know you. daniela, we just talked about this with jamie, but this is the same rick perry who said this six years ago. >> let no one be mistaken, donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded. it cannot be pacified or ignored. for it will destroy a set of principles. >> it will destroy a set of principles. that's interesting. >> yeah, who knew rick perry was going to end up being quite the soothesayer. it just shows again how deep the rot of trumpism has gone within the party. look, i don't agree with rick perry on probably pretty much anything, but given like what he said during the 2015 election, i never would have guessed he