you and i have been talking about it more than two years. that 10,000 people died last week. most didn't need to. most were preventible deaths or stupid deaths. that's the catastrophic moral failure. hundreds of thousands have died over the last, you know, cynic the vaccines rolled out, hundreds of thousands have rolled out preventible deaths. that's the catastrophic moral failure. kids will say, in a few years, let me get this straight. my loved one is not here but they could have been if they got vaccinated. didn't get vaccinated because of politics. that's the moral failure. that's the biggest one and that's something we have to contend with and hopefully learn from. we may have to apply these lessons sometime again soon. >> i think she was talking about closing schools. you and i have talking literally since the middle of 2020, the need to have schools open for social and academic reasons as long as they can be opened safely.