senator shaheen and senator portman have one that i will sponsor for the senate as a whole to express themselves in support of ukraine. the one thing that should be clear, jake, we're all in agreement on two major things. number one, we support ukraine unequivocally. and support mean both lethal and nonlethal. number two, we all believe there must be swift and punishing sanctions against putin if he invades ukraine. maybe the details on how you do it is another question. >> in the last hour, i spoke with pat toomey. he said their sanctions bill come down harder on russia. take a listen. >> the big difference between our two approaches is in our bill, we impose secondary sanctions on russian banks. that has the effect of shutting down russian economy. probably crashes the ruble. makes it very difficult for them to sell even oil and gas anywhere in the world. >> could you get on board with that if russia were to invade?