engaging in the scrutiny of somebody's record, they're going to have more of a response, i think. >> right. what this sort of out-of-the-blue comments by senator josh hawley has indicated shows just what judge jackson is in for in her confirmation hearing. to the extent there's been one common thread that senate republicans have discussed when it comes to judge jackson, it is the issue of crime. several have pointed to herselves as service of a public defender, and her representation of gitmo detainees. i spoke to senator kennedy, and he told me he's uncomfortable with those attacks. attorneys have always represented people we may not even like, but that's our job to provide counsel, so there is some hesitation with republicans on that committee. >> and they haven't had a defendinger on the cord since thurgood marshall, so i think