think surprised some people. >> our speaker comes with an impressive list of responsibilities. >> lachlan had the personality of a politician. >> i know i have a baby face, but i'm actually 28 years old. my birthday last week. so. >> lachlan was much more a hugging type. james was more stand offish. >> it is a very traditional sort of corporate structure for people to have a competition among different executives. it is less normal for that to be the way a father pits his children against one another. but, that's exactly what rupert set out, the very public competition between his children for who was going to succeed him. >> in the course of this interview, i was curious to see