gulf. down here they have fences about half the distance. that isn't the solution to the problem. you know, anytime there is a demand to get to the united states, a lot of it would be for benefits, a lot of it for food stamps and aall the other things we have to offer, until that is collected i don't think we're ultimately going to be able to resolve the problem. i know there's a gang of 8, some four democrats, four republicans. my concern there is what they're doing on this what they call the path to legal immigration, the path to citizenship, you know, i've been privileged, wolf, to talk to maybe more of the naturalization ceremonies than anybody else has. and i look at these people who came over the legal way, the hard way, and i can tell you now that my heart bleeds every time i hear people talking about an easier way for illegals to become citizens. >> well, listen to lindsey graham. he's a republican from south carolina, one of the members of the so-called gang of 8.