testosterone test, if you will. harry reid is the leader of the senate, and he felt he was sold out, that joe biden came in and did his job. >> when he negotiated with mitch mcconnell. >> and the administration gave up too much in the view of some democrats in those negotiations. so harry reid's point is i'm the point person in the united states senate, respect my job, mr. president. i have had your back in a lot of fights. don't go around me or behind me. the problem is with zero trust, the president is betting that john boehner gets to the point where he sees the republicans getting most of the blame and perhaps the majority going away and he blinks. the speaker is betting on the fact that the president sees the prospect of default and even though the republicans get more of the blame, if the economy tanks, what happens to the president's second term? then he will blink. the only way to get this done is to put them in a room and if they don't trust each other, leave them there until they figure it out. >> or put other people in the room for them, that are representing them, but are their surrogates so they actually don't have to look like they're caving. this is all in the end, this is all going to be about who's behind the curtain. who's doing the negotiating