significant demand that the house republicans, if it stays in that legislation. >> if it stays in. >> would any president accept that? >> historically, the way you negotiate is you start with two sides and you try to come together. you don't start with one side -- >> but they have come together in the senate. what's wrong with that? >> i think the senate bill frankly is pretty weak. >> but if it's good enough for mitch mcconnell and all these republicans in the senate, why isn't it -- in order to avoid default? >> first of all, you don't know beyond mitch mcconnell how many republicans it's good enough for because they haven't had a vote. they haven't come out and talked about it. >> i have talked to a lot of republican senators. johnny isakson of georgia, he's a conservative, right? >> right. >> he wants this to go forward. he thinks it was a blunder to start linking obama care to this whole government shutdown issue. >> so look, there's no question you have a number of senators who wish this had never happened, would like to get it over. you also have a number of house members who feel very strongly that cutting john boehner out of this process was a huge mistake