operation. >> jim scuitto has a question. >> i agree that it's clear that the iranians after seven years or probably far earlier knew he had these ties, but i've spoke to a number of americans who have been held under false charges. this is a favorite charge, roxanna sentenced to eight year, though he was released. >> the hikers, sure. >> sure. a former u.s. marine being held there now on similar charges, there's a propaganda value here. do you worry they would use this revelation as further ammunition for other americans falsely accused? >> i'm not a hostage negotiator, but i would saying that since 9/11 win overly, both media and the courts, have been overly deferential to anytime someone sells national security, and they back off. too much has happened this time. the family has agreed to allow